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Comedy Blues and Creative Highs

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Hey Dave – I have a confession to make and was wondering if this is normal or not and if so, how to deal with it? Is there such a thing as having the blues in comedy? I guess you could call it the Comedy Blues. I mean, I’ve been told “no” before and had terrible sets in the past. But I strongly feel it has made me the keen comedian I am today. But still, if I may… help! – A.

An instrument for creativity

Hey A. – Congratulations. You’re a creative artist.

And what you’re feeling? It comes with the territory.

A career in the arts—comedy, speaking, acting, music, writing—often means riding an emotional roller coaster. Big highs. Big lows. That’s one reason so many people wish they could do it, but don’t. Standing on stage, getting laughs, meeting fans, and getting paid is a great gig. From the audience, it looks glamorous. What they don’t see is the rejection, the waiting, the self-doubt, and the work.

The people who truly pursue it usually don’t feel like they have a choice. They have to do it.

This may sound more motivational than instructional today but stay with me.

Let’s talk music for a second. Some great songs are about incredible highs. Others are about lows—the blues. Blues songs exist because nothing worth having comes easy. They’re about loss, frustration, and struggle.

Now translate that to comedy.

Creative words from a creative artist

If you’re serious about being a comedian (or humorous speaker), you want things to happen now. But progress is slow. Opportunities are unpredictable. Yes, there are huge highs—your first paid gig, passing an audition, winning a contest. But there are also long stretches where nothing clicks, nothing moves, and doors stay closed.

Here’s the truth: every working comic will tell you that you’ll hear “no” far more than “yes,” especially early on.

That’s not a flaw in the system. That is the system.

If you want to stay in this business long enough to build a career, you need to develop thick skin. There’s no shortcut around it.

Think of it like sports. The best relief pitchers in baseball blow saves. What separates them from the ones who spiral or disappear is their ability to shake it off and throw the next pitch with confidence. That mindset has to be learned—or developed quickly—if you want to survive in a competitive field.

Comedy is exactly that: a creative art inside a competitive business.

You put your work—and yourself—out there to be judged by bookers, producers, and audiences. Some will love it. Some won’t. The goal isn’t avoiding highs and lows. The goal is not letting either one define you.

I remember working in New York and hearing brand-new comics say they planned to have a sitcom within a year. I heard it more than once. Meanwhile, the comics hanging around the NY Improv—Ray Romano, Larry David, Dave Attell (to mention only three)—had been grinding for years. They didn’t get everything they auditioned for. They just didn’t quit when someone said “no.”

Unrealistic expectations create massive lows.

Understanding the process creates resilience.

That process has a name: paying your dues. Some people drop out because they can’t take the lows. Others continue because they’re wired to create—whether success comes quickly or not. Continuing doesn’t guarantee success. Talent, business skills, relationships, and luck all matter. But quitting guarantees nothing.

So, what do you do with the Comedy Blues?

Sometimes you step back and regroup. Sometimes you put your head down and keep going. For many creative artists, there isn’t really a choice.

One final thought: consider using those feelings in your writing.

You don’t need to talk about the Comedy Blues—but bringing real emotion into your material adds honesty and depth. Audiences can spot fake instantly. They can also sense when someone is telling the truth, even through jokes.

Most strong comics and speakers draw from experience. They’ve ridden the roller coaster. They’ve paid their dues.

Remember—this is a creative art.
And being a creative artist has never been easy.

But for those who feel called to it?
It’s the only ride worth taking.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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Being Influenced vs. Copying

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Hey Dave – I’ve been working on material and continue to search for my comedy voice. Although I want to do some improvising, I want a good amount of material to work off of. Someone said I have a somewhat eccentric and iconoclastic persona and should take advantage of that. Therefore, I’ve thought about using Prof. Irwin Corey and Steven Wright as influences and been writing material similar to theirs, especially since I like it. However, I’m afraid I’m not using them as an influence but just copying them. Is there a thin line between the 2 or just between fishing and standing there doing nothing? – JK

Read and remember!

Hey JK – I was fortunate to work with the late, great Prof. Irwin Corey and with Steven Wright during my years at The NYC Improv. And as I always tell the younger comics: if you don’t know who those guys are, look them up. You’ll learn a lot about the history of stand-up and how much past performers have shaped the headliners we see today.

Both Prof. Corey and Steven Wright are incredibly smart and incredibly funny. I also know that if I ever tried to write like either one, I’d be lost – completely confused. My brain actually hurts just thinking about it. But I do have some thoughts on your question, so instead of standing here doing nothing, let’s go fishing for an answer…

Yes – there is a line between being influenced and copying. Ideally, it should be a wide one.

As Prof. Corey would say, “Let me explain…”

Prof. Irwin Corey

I often compare comedy to music. I’ve done this in my workshops, books, and more than a few FAQs. You can’t reinvent the wheel. Someone had to hum the first tune, and someone had to make the first joke. Musicians and comedians have been building on those firsts ever since.

One of my all-time favorite bands is The Rolling Stones. They’ve influenced countless musicians for more than sixty years – yet there’s still only one Rolling Stones. But even they started by copying their heroes: Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley… the list goes on.

Did they copy? Absolutely.

They played a lot of covers early on. But that’s not what made them legends. Mick Jagger found his own voice. Keith Richards found his. Together they wrote new songs inspired by what they loved – but filtered through who they were.

That’s exactly how comedians develop. They start by emulating what they like.

Keith Richards isn’t going to play Bach when he grew up loving Chuck Berry. And based on how you described your humor, I doubt you’re going onstage with props like Carrot Top or with the kind of sharp-edged commentary Dave Chappelle is known for. You admire Corey and Wright, so of course they’ll influence you – just like Chuck Berry influenced the Stones.

But here’s the big difference between comedy and music:

Steven Wright

The Rolling Stones can play “Johnny B. Goode” in concert. A comedian can’t go onstage and say, “Here’s one from Steven Wright,” and then perform his jokes.

That’s not influence – that’s theft. And yes, there are comedians who do it. And most of us know exactly who they are. The respect level for joke thieves is somewhere below sea level.

Being influenced is not the same as stealing.

Creative artists build on what came before them. A Rolling Stones song might have a Chuck Berry riff or a Bo Diddley beat hiding in the background, but it’s still a Stones song. Likewise, comedians can’t help but be influenced by the style of humor they enjoy.

Carrot Top didn’t invent prop comedy. Every kid who ever held paper plates to their head and pretended to be Mickey Mouse dabbled in prop comedy. He took what he liked and built on it.

That’s what you need to do.

You understand your comedic style. It’s reminiscent of Corey and Wright, but you’re not Corey and you’re not Wright – and that’s the point. You didn’t grow up in their neighborhoods, their families, their jobs, or their lives. You have your own stories, experiences, personality, and point of view.

That’s where your material has to come from.

Don’t ask, “What would Steven Wright say?” Ask, “What do I think about this?” Respect your influences, borrow the sensibility you appreciate – but say things in your own words with your own brain.

When I worked in Los Angeles, I worked with Jim Carrey and Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld). Both were massive Jerry Lewis fans. But neither went onstage yelling, “HEY LAAYYYDEEE!” That would’ve been stealing. But they did incorporate Lewis-style physicality, wild expressions, and pratfalls – filtered through their own personalities and experiences. And Jerry Lewis, of course, had been influenced by Chaplin and Harpo Marx.

That’s how influence works.

Use your natural mannerisms, your personality, and your experiences to shape your material. Don’t hold paper plates up to your head and hope the audience laughs – dig deeper. Think about why something is funny to you and how you see it. Then present that.

Everyone is influenced by someone. None of us are inventing the wheel – we’re just putting better tires on it. The key is understanding what makes you unique and exploring material that fits your comedic point of view.

Keep writing. Keep performing. Your comedy voice will emerge. And one day, when someone asks who influenced you, you’ll have your answer – just like every successful comedian does. The turning point is when you stop copying and start building on what inspired you in the first place.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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The Comedy Police Force

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Hey Dave – I was at an open-mic last week. A comic went on stage and “called out” another comic who had gone before him for stealing jokes. He did this from the stage. Afterwards, he couldn’t prove it – and no one else remembered hearing those jokes anywhere else. We think he was wrong and handled it wrong. Any thoughts? – D

Comedy police out for joke-stealers!

Hey D – I always have thoughts. And when they’re about comics stealing material, they’re never good ones.

What a jerk.

Wait… let me rethink that. We might have two jerks here. Allow me to think out loud – or at least in loud writing.

JERK #1

This honor goes to the comic who “called out” the other one from the stage.

First of all, he admitted afterward that he had no proof. Maybe he thought he was being edgy—sometimes that works—but not when it’s at the expense of another comic who’s just trying to improve at an open-mic. That’s what these nights are for: getting better.

(And of course, this assumes the first comic didn’t actually steal material.)

The accuser should’ve talked to him privately, not trashed him in front of an audience. Unless a comic is known for stealing, the professional move is to speak offstage, one-on-one.

Bill Engvall talked about this in my book Comedy FAQs and Answers. He called it the comedy police.

Mention it!

When you think someone’s stealing, mention it—but privately. Comics should police each other, keep each other honest. If the warned comic keeps doing the same bit after being told, then there might be consequences.

But sometimes it’s not theft – it’s coincidence.

I once knew two comics, one in New York and one in Los Angeles, who independently wrote the same joke. They didn’t know each other and had never worked the same clubs. But the LA comic did the joke on the television show, A&E’s An Evening at the Improv.

(I know, because I was the talent coordinator standing off – camera when it happened.)

After the taping, I called the NY comic – both are still friends of mine – and told him what happened. He immediately said, “Well, I can’t do that joke anymore.” He wasn’t mad, because he knew they’d both written it honestly. But now that it had aired nationally, the other guy “owned” it.

That’s just how the business works.

So yes, a comic can accidentally do something too similar to someone else’s bit. The right way to handle that is quietly and respectfully – not grandstanding from the stage.

If you’ve got proof, talk privately. If he keeps doing it, then you can call him out.

JERK #2

Now let’s talk about the other jerk – the one who really does steal.

Back in New York, when I was starting out, there was an open-mic comic who ran a popular show. He was a nice guy, gave people stage time, and claimed to be a headliner in Florida.

That didn’t quite add up.

Turned out, he was going to Florida and doing the best material he’d stolen from comics performing at his open-mic.

Say what?!

The reaction from the NY comedy scene was swift and brutal. Nobody played his open-mic anymore, and no one else would give him stage time. Word got around, and eventually, he left for Florida to “pursue his career.” I later heard he was parking cars. Can’t confirm that – but it fits.

A few years later, when I was talent coordinator for An Evening at the Improv, he called my office trying to play the “old friend” card for an audition. Short story – he didn’t get one.

Chalk another up for the comedy police.

The Bottom Line

So, to answer your question, yeah – the comic who called the other one out from the stage was wrong. If he thought there was a problem, he should’ve handled it privately. Maybe the other comic didn’t even realize it. But if there’s proof, he needs to stop doing the joke.

And if he really is stealing? The comedy police will take care of it.

Comedy is a small world. Word gets around fast.

If it’s obvious someone’s stealing and they keep doing it, they’ll be blacklisted before long. Odds are better they’ll be parking cars at a comedy club before they ever “own” anyone else’s material on television.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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Looking for stage time

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Hey Dave – I have performed terribly at three open-mics in Kentucky. Could you point me in the direction of a “lower end” establishment in Ohio? I’m looking for a place that does not require you to bring five friends. I don’t know five people. Thanks, J.

Come’on in – please!!

Hey J – Thanks for thinking of me when it comes to “lower end” establishments. Maybe I should start calling this the Blue Collar Comedy Column – but let’s not go there. Instead of chasing a “higher end” reputation, let’s focus on what you really need: stage time.

First, about the whole bring-five-friends thing…

Open mics that aren’t at established comedy clubs tend to come and go quickly. Most are in bars, restaurants, or small venues. If the owner is making money on comedy night, it keeps going. If not, they swap the mic for a giant TV and start packing the place for football season.

That’s why you see so many “bringer” shows. It’s a simple business deal:

  • You bring paying customers.
  • They give you stage time to get experience and improve.

From their perspective, everybody wins.

Stage time!

Now, back when I started in this crazy business, we performed at open-mics in NYC that always had an audience – no bringer requirement. But times have changed. Today, getting stage time often means convincing friends to pay a cover and buy a couple drinks.

Chris Murphy, a comedy coach in NYC, shared some great tips on beating the bringer system in my book Comedy FAQs and Answers. Check your library or grab a copy online if you want the full story.

But let’s get back to your real question – where to find open-mics.

Here’s the deal: open-mic lists get outdated fast. I used to hand them out in my workshops, but by the next session, half the places had shut down or switched to karaoke. The smarter approach is:

  1. Research – Google comedy clubs in your area (Ohio in your case). Most legit clubs post open-mic info on their websites because it’s free promotion.
  2. Call – If there’s no info online, call the club. You’ll probably talk to a staffer, not the owner, so don’t worry about annoying the wrong person. Fun fact: many people answering phones at comedy clubs are aspiring comics themselves.

Even if the club doesn’t have an open mic, ask if they know of any. Comics tend to know where stage time is happening.

Once you find one open-mic, go there. Perform, hang out, and start talking to other comics. That’s networking – and it’s the real key to finding stage time. Comics share info, recommend each other, and build local comedy scenes together.

A few tips:

  • Be supportive. Watch other comics. Don’t just do your set and leave.
  • Share open-mic info when you find it.
  • Avoid being “that guy” who only takes and never gives back.

And yes, you’ll meet a few jerks along the way. Every business has them. Ignore the negativity and focus on improving and building connections.

The bottom line:
Once you are part of a local comedy scene, you’ll hear about open-mics before they’re even posted online. The more supportive you are, the more stage time opportunities will come your way.

Simple? From what I’ve seen, it usually is.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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Always good to ask before you audition

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Hey Dave – I have a big audition coming up. I’m not going to have any profanity in my (comedy) set, but I’m thinking of having a cleaner version and another one that is a bit edgier. I’m thinking of asking the panel of judges what type of set they want before I perform. Do you think this is a good idea? Thanks – DS

Hey DS,

What’s the question?

Absolutely! I think it’s a smart move to ask the judges—or any talent booker—about any content or language restrictions before you perform. In fact, I emphasize this in my workshops for a couple of important reasons:

  1. It shows professionalism – Being able to adjust your material based on the audience is key. Talent bookers appreciate that because it’s a sign you understand the business side of things.
  2. It gives you an edge over the competition – As much as I love talking about the supportive nature of the comedy community, let’s face it: not everyone can be hired. To stand out at showcases, you need to tailor your performance to the audience. And yes, comedy is a business, so that’s an important part of it.

For instance, let’s say there are only five spots available for a television show, but plenty of comics auditioning. Sure, being funny is crucial, but assuming everyone is equally funny and knows the right people, the deciding factor often comes down to whether you can adapt your set for the audience.

You wouldn’t perform the same set on The Disney Channel that you would on a Comedy Central Roast, right?

Here’s another example:

Did she really say that?

If you’re auditioning for a cruise ship gig, you wouldn’t walk on stage and start dropping F-bombs or overshare about your personal life. A lot of the onboard comedy shows are family-friendly—early evening performances with kids in the audience—and then later, after the kids are asleep, the adult shows take over. But if you can’t show you can adapt to both audiences, you likely won’t get the gig.

So, how would you know these nuances if you’ve never been on a cruise ship or worked in that environment? That’s where asking beforehand comes in handy.

Of course, if you’ve already found your comedy voice and certain venues aren’t a fit, that’s totally fine! I’m not saying you should always work clean. But if you know your material wouldn’t be acceptable for a specific gig (say, a family show), you’re not only wasting your time, but also taking an opportunity away from another comic who’d be a better fit for that audience.

Another example: when I booked comics for A&E’s An Evening at the Improv, we had specific guidelines for the performances. We’d go over them with the comics before the taping:

  1. Avoid making fun of God or religion – Our highest ratings were in The Bible Belt, and we didn’t want to risk alienating that audience. Plus, higher ratings bring in sponsors, so it’s good business.
  2. No bashing specific products – We couldn’t afford lawsuits, so no dissing a car brand or fast-food chain. Business, once again!
  3. Song parodies were limited – We had a strict 18-second rule to avoid paying song royalties for TV broadcasts.

So, what happened if a comic didn’t follow these rules?

If you watch reruns, you might notice some comics are only on-screen for 4 or 5 minutes instead of the usual 7. Why? They didn’t follow the guidelines, and that gets edited out. It’s an easy fix in the editing room, or even before the performance in the case of live auditions.

When it comes to working clubs, it’s almost always possible to check with the talent booker beforehand to ask if there are any material restrictions. They should be upfront with you because they know their audience best.

The goal for any talent booker is to find performers who can connect with their venue’s audience. This applies to comedy contests too, since the bigger business goal is to turn first-time audience members into repeat customers. And to figure out what works for their audience? You’ve got to ask.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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Finding stage time in Los Angeles

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Hey Dave – I won a contest for a trip to Los Angeles to appear in a commercial. Unfortunately, since I’m not in SAG-AFTRA (Actors Guild), I’m being buried in the background as an extra. I’m pretty stoked about the trip though. I’m hoping to hit one of the popular comedy clubs in Hollywood and see if they’ll let me do a guest set. I’m wondering if you have any recommendations. I’ll be there next week for six days. – S.

LA – where dreams can come true!

Hey S. – First, congratulations! Winning a contest for a trip to L.A. is very cool, even if they’re burying you in the background since you’re not in the actor’s union. Consider it motivation to get that SAG-AFTRA card — though, to be honest, I had mine for years and still got buried in the background plenty of times.

Here’s the scoop — and, of course, your experience might be different:

Unless you’re already a well-known or semi-known headliner or feature with credits and contacts who can vouch for you, it’s extremely tough to get stage time at the popular Hollywood clubs when you’re just in town for a week. The local comics have invested years hanging out, showcasing, networking, taking workshops, bringing paying audiences (“bringer shows”), and doing whatever it takes to get seen.

The bookers at clubs like The Improv, The Comedy Store, and The Laugh Factory need to spend their time on comedians they can actually book again soon. Giving a visiting comic a guest spot doesn’t help them much — unless you have a strong recommendation from a trusted regular (and I mean a real regular, not someone who’s just emceeing Monday open-mic nights).

I’ve been the talent booker at The Improv in L.A., so trust me — I know how this works.

So, to be blunt: it’s very unlikely you’ll score stage time at the big-name clubs during your short trip. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be a productive comedy visit.

Here’s what I recommend:

 

👉 Hit the open mics. L.A. has tons of them — Google “Los Angeles comedy open mics 2025” and you’ll find plenty. In fact, I just did and here’s a LINK. Always check that they’re still running — venues open and close fast. Call ahead or reach out to whoever books it. Some shows may ask you to bring guests; some may squeeze you in because you’re from out of town. You won’t know unless you ask.

👉 Check out the big clubs anyway. Even if you can’t get on stage, you should absolutely go watch a show or two. See how the pros work. Weeknight shows are best for watching up-and-coming comics; weekends are more touristy and packed with big names you can see on TV. You’ll learn a lot just by observing.

👉 Use this trip for inspiration. Wherever you find comedians, you’ll find comics hunting for stage time. It’s part of the grind. So, treat this trip as a chance to network, see what’s working in a major scene, and maybe make a few connections you can build on down the line.

Enjoy the commercial shoot, make the most of your free time, and soak up everything you can. Who knows? Maybe your next visit will be with a SAG-AFTRA card — and a real spot on the lineup.

Break a leg and have a blast in L.A.!

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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3 Lessons I Learned From a 30-Year Comedy Veteran – Dave Schwensen

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By Siddesh Pai – “I Help Comedians, Humor Keynote Speakers & Entrepreneurs Enhance Their Personal Brand Through Targeted Newsletters | Standup Comedian”

Readers: You can locate Siddesh Pai through the following link on LinkedIn. This is an interview we did earlier this year and I liked it enough to share it. Thanks Siddesh and keep laughing!!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddeshpai/

3 Lessons I Learned From a 30-Year Comedy Veteran – Dave Schwensen

Talking comedy

Dave has been working in comedy for three decades. But he wants to make one thing clear: he’s not a stand-up comedian. To me, it felt like a writer who doesn’t read. But that’s exactly what makes him different—he’s spent his career booking, coaching, and writing on the business of comedy. In our conversation, he dropped some serious wisdom on why treating comedy like a business is the key to making it a career.

1) Comedy Can’t Be Taught—But It Can Be Coached

“I don’t believe you can teach comedy. What I think is funny, you might not. My kids certainly don’t think I’m funny.” I can’t tell you the Three Stooges are funny if you don’t find slipping on a banana peel hilarious, there’s nothing he can do to change that. This is where coaching comes in. Every comedian has a different style, a different rhythm, and a different worldview. Dave helps comics refine that—polishing the delivery, cutting the fat from jokes, and shaping a strong act. Because at the end of the day, you can’t teach funny. But you can help someone be funnier.

2) No One Is Going to Hand You Stage Time – You Have to Create It

“You can’t teach timing, you can’t teach delivery, and you sure as hell can’t teach stage presence. You have to get up there and do it.” Most comedians think getting better means hitting open mics over and over. But Dave has a different take – go where the audience actually wants entertainment. Clubs are competitive. You’re performing for other comics, waiting for their turn. But business events, fundraisers, and community groups? They’re desperate for entertainment. Your first gigs might be free, but that’s how you build momentum. One day, you’re performing at a Rotary Club for free. The next, someone offers you $500 to do the same set. Stage time is currency. The more you get, the faster you grow.

3) They Call It Amateur Night, But No One Is Trying to Hire an Amateur

A lot of comedians treat stand-up like a passion project. But the ones who make a career out of it? They treat it like a business. – Networking Matters – Hanging out with comics at open mics isn’t enough. Get to know bookers, producers, and event organizers. These are the people who can actually get you paid work. – Market Yourself – Being funny isn’t enough if no one knows you exist. Build a brand, create content, and stay on people’s radar. Your name should pop up when someone’s looking for a comedian. – Be a Professional – Show up on time. Have a tight five. Be easy to work with. Give people your business card. Make yourself easy to book. The comedians who get booked aren’t just the funniest—they’re the ones who treat it like a business.

Thanks for reading – and keep laughing!

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