Laughs and Bookings – the best revenge

Hey Dave – I had a great set last night, but one of the comedians who went on after me tore into me. It got really personal, and it honestly hurt. The people running the show asked if I wanted to go back on and get revenge, but I declined. Did I handle it the right way? – N.R.

Best revenge!

Hey N.R. – It sounds like the opening shot in a potential comedy war. Whether you want to crawl into the comedy trenches (a common comedy term — not mine) with this loudmouth depends on two things:

• Your onstage personality — your comic voice
• How you want to be seen onstage and offstage in this business

Maybe I’m naive, but after a few decades working with comedians, I’ve found this business to be far more supportive than people think. Sure, there are jerks — real pains in the butt — but I don’t know any career path that’s immune from that.

When this kind of behavior happens, it’s usually fueled by jealousy, ego, or a power trip. And here’s the irony: in my experience, the more power someone actually has in the business, the more supportive they tend to be of newer talent. That goes for comedians, bookers, and behind-the-scenes decision-makers.

Disbelief?

(I can practically feel the disbelief from some readers right now. This may turn into a future FAQ — I’ll let that thought marinate.)

For now, here’s the real issue:

Who are you onstage, and how do you want to be perceived by the people you work with — other comics and the people who hire them?

Comedians who are genuine friends tear into each other onstage all the time. That can be hilarious. At the NYC Improv, we could run a microphone into the men’s room and hold it over a flushing toilet when a friend’s joke bombed. The comic onstage ripped into us for the rest of the set, and everyone loved it.

  • That’s playful.
  • That’s earned.
  • That’s mutual.

What you experienced sounds different.

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When it’s mean-spirited, there’s no upside. An unprovoked attack is almost always about making him look better at your expense — jealousy, ego, or both.

There are two ways to handle this, and the right choice depends on who you are.

If you’re the kind of comedian who can verbally dismantle someone — truly dismantle them — then by all means, go for it. A skilled insult comic doesn’t absorb cheap shots; they return them with interest. Think Nikki Glaser, Marc Maron, Wanda Sykes, Dave Attell, Jeff Ross. An insult comic worth their weight can turn a heckler — or a fellow comic — into roadkill.

If that’s you, next time: aim for the throat.

But if that’s not your voice — onstage or in life — then you absolutely did the right thing by walking away.

Let this guy burn his own reputation. Comics don’t want to work with someone known for cheap shots. And bookers? They want the least amount of drama possible. Speaking from experience as a booker, I’ve passed on very funny non-headliners simply because they were a pain to deal with.

If someone else is just as funny — and easier to work with — that’s who gets the gig. Every time.

In a perfect world, your only focus should be becoming a better comedian. If someone chasing the same goal doesn’t like you, you’re probably doing something right.

Want revenge?
Get more laughs.
That leads to more bookings.

Use this moment as fuel. If your work ethic and focus pay off, maybe someday this loudmouth will be parking cars outside a comedy club, ripping into his coworkers — while you’re inside headlining.

Make it happen.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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Always good to ask before you audition

Hey Dave – I have a big audition coming up. I’m not going to have any profanity in my (comedy) set, but I’m thinking of having a cleaner version and another one that is a bit edgier. I’m thinking of asking the panel of judges what type of set they want before I perform. Do you think this is a good idea? Thanks – DS

Hey DS,

What’s the question?

Absolutely! I think it’s a smart move to ask the judges—or any talent booker—about any content or language restrictions before you perform. In fact, I emphasize this in my workshops for a couple of important reasons:

  1. It shows professionalism – Being able to adjust your material based on the audience is key. Talent bookers appreciate that because it’s a sign you understand the business side of things.
  2. It gives you an edge over the competition – As much as I love talking about the supportive nature of the comedy community, let’s face it: not everyone can be hired. To stand out at showcases, you need to tailor your performance to the audience. And yes, comedy is a business, so that’s an important part of it.

For instance, let’s say there are only five spots available for a television show, but plenty of comics auditioning. Sure, being funny is crucial, but assuming everyone is equally funny and knows the right people, the deciding factor often comes down to whether you can adapt your set for the audience.

You wouldn’t perform the same set on The Disney Channel that you would on a Comedy Central Roast, right?

Here’s another example:

Did she really say that?

If you’re auditioning for a cruise ship gig, you wouldn’t walk on stage and start dropping F-bombs or overshare about your personal life. A lot of the onboard comedy shows are family-friendly—early evening performances with kids in the audience—and then later, after the kids are asleep, the adult shows take over. But if you can’t show you can adapt to both audiences, you likely won’t get the gig.

So, how would you know these nuances if you’ve never been on a cruise ship or worked in that environment? That’s where asking beforehand comes in handy.

Of course, if you’ve already found your comedy voice and certain venues aren’t a fit, that’s totally fine! I’m not saying you should always work clean. But if you know your material wouldn’t be acceptable for a specific gig (say, a family show), you’re not only wasting your time, but also taking an opportunity away from another comic who’d be a better fit for that audience.

Another example: when I booked comics for A&E’s An Evening at the Improv, we had specific guidelines for the performances. We’d go over them with the comics before the taping:

  1. Avoid making fun of God or religion – Our highest ratings were in The Bible Belt, and we didn’t want to risk alienating that audience. Plus, higher ratings bring in sponsors, so it’s good business.
  2. No bashing specific products – We couldn’t afford lawsuits, so no dissing a car brand or fast-food chain. Business, once again!
  3. Song parodies were limited – We had a strict 18-second rule to avoid paying song royalties for TV broadcasts.

So, what happened if a comic didn’t follow these rules?

If you watch reruns, you might notice some comics are only on-screen for 4 or 5 minutes instead of the usual 7. Why? They didn’t follow the guidelines, and that gets edited out. It’s an easy fix in the editing room, or even before the performance in the case of live auditions.

When it comes to working clubs, it’s almost always possible to check with the talent booker beforehand to ask if there are any material restrictions. They should be upfront with you because they know their audience best.

The goal for any talent booker is to find performers who can connect with their venue’s audience. This applies to comedy contests too, since the bigger business goal is to turn first-time audience members into repeat customers. And to figure out what works for their audience? You’ve got to ask.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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