Comedy Blues and Creative Highs

Hey Dave – I have a confession to make and was wondering if this is normal or not and if so, how to deal with it? Is there such a thing as having the blues in comedy? I guess you could call it the Comedy Blues. I mean, I’ve been told “no” before and had terrible sets in the past. But I strongly feel it has made me the keen comedian I am today. But still, if I may… help! – A.

An instrument for creativity

Hey A. – Congratulations. You’re a creative artist.

And what you’re feeling? It comes with the territory.

A career in the arts—comedy, speaking, acting, music, writing—often means riding an emotional roller coaster. Big highs. Big lows. That’s one reason so many people wish they could do it, but don’t. Standing on stage, getting laughs, meeting fans, and getting paid is a great gig. From the audience, it looks glamorous. What they don’t see is the rejection, the waiting, the self-doubt, and the work.

The people who truly pursue it usually don’t feel like they have a choice. They have to do it.

This may sound more motivational than instructional today but stay with me.

Let’s talk music for a second. Some great songs are about incredible highs. Others are about lows—the blues. Blues songs exist because nothing worth having comes easy. They’re about loss, frustration, and struggle.

Now translate that to comedy.

Creative words from a creative artist

If you’re serious about being a comedian (or humorous speaker), you want things to happen now. But progress is slow. Opportunities are unpredictable. Yes, there are huge highs—your first paid gig, passing an audition, winning a contest. But there are also long stretches where nothing clicks, nothing moves, and doors stay closed.

Here’s the truth: every working comic will tell you that you’ll hear “no” far more than “yes,” especially early on.

That’s not a flaw in the system. That is the system.

If you want to stay in this business long enough to build a career, you need to develop thick skin. There’s no shortcut around it.

Think of it like sports. The best relief pitchers in baseball blow saves. What separates them from the ones who spiral or disappear is their ability to shake it off and throw the next pitch with confidence. That mindset has to be learned—or developed quickly—if you want to survive in a competitive field.

Comedy is exactly that: a creative art inside a competitive business.

You put your work—and yourself—out there to be judged by bookers, producers, and audiences. Some will love it. Some won’t. The goal isn’t avoiding highs and lows. The goal is not letting either one define you.

I remember working in New York and hearing brand-new comics say they planned to have a sitcom within a year. I heard it more than once. Meanwhile, the comics hanging around the NY Improv—Ray Romano, Larry David, Dave Attell (to mention only three)—had been grinding for years. They didn’t get everything they auditioned for. They just didn’t quit when someone said “no.”

Unrealistic expectations create massive lows.

Understanding the process creates resilience.

That process has a name: paying your dues. Some people drop out because they can’t take the lows. Others continue because they’re wired to create—whether success comes quickly or not. Continuing doesn’t guarantee success. Talent, business skills, relationships, and luck all matter. But quitting guarantees nothing.

So, what do you do with the Comedy Blues?

Sometimes you step back and regroup. Sometimes you put your head down and keep going. For many creative artists, there isn’t really a choice.

One final thought: consider using those feelings in your writing.

You don’t need to talk about the Comedy Blues—but bringing real emotion into your material adds honesty and depth. Audiences can spot fake instantly. They can also sense when someone is telling the truth, even through jokes.

Most strong comics and speakers draw from experience. They’ve ridden the roller coaster. They’ve paid their dues.

Remember—this is a creative art.
And being a creative artist has never been easy.

But for those who feel called to it?
It’s the only ride worth taking.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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Being Influenced vs. Copying

Hey Dave – I’ve been working on material and continue to search for my comedy voice. Although I want to do some improvising, I want a good amount of material to work off of. Someone said I have a somewhat eccentric and iconoclastic persona and should take advantage of that. Therefore, I’ve thought about using Prof. Irwin Corey and Steven Wright as influences and been writing material similar to theirs, especially since I like it. However, I’m afraid I’m not using them as an influence but just copying them. Is there a thin line between the 2 or just between fishing and standing there doing nothing? – JK

Read and remember!

Hey JK – I was fortunate to work with the late, great Prof. Irwin Corey and with Steven Wright during my years at The NYC Improv. And as I always tell the younger comics: if you don’t know who those guys are, look them up. You’ll learn a lot about the history of stand-up and how much past performers have shaped the headliners we see today.

Both Prof. Corey and Steven Wright are incredibly smart and incredibly funny. I also know that if I ever tried to write like either one, I’d be lost – completely confused. My brain actually hurts just thinking about it. But I do have some thoughts on your question, so instead of standing here doing nothing, let’s go fishing for an answer…

Yes – there is a line between being influenced and copying. Ideally, it should be a wide one.

As Prof. Corey would say, “Let me explain…”

Prof. Irwin Corey

I often compare comedy to music. I’ve done this in my workshops, books, and more than a few FAQs. You can’t reinvent the wheel. Someone had to hum the first tune, and someone had to make the first joke. Musicians and comedians have been building on those firsts ever since.

One of my all-time favorite bands is The Rolling Stones. They’ve influenced countless musicians for more than sixty years – yet there’s still only one Rolling Stones. But even they started by copying their heroes: Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley… the list goes on.

Did they copy? Absolutely.

They played a lot of covers early on. But that’s not what made them legends. Mick Jagger found his own voice. Keith Richards found his. Together they wrote new songs inspired by what they loved – but filtered through who they were.

That’s exactly how comedians develop. They start by emulating what they like.

Keith Richards isn’t going to play Bach when he grew up loving Chuck Berry. And based on how you described your humor, I doubt you’re going onstage with props like Carrot Top or with the kind of sharp-edged commentary Dave Chappelle is known for. You admire Corey and Wright, so of course they’ll influence you – just like Chuck Berry influenced the Stones.

But here’s the big difference between comedy and music:

Steven Wright

The Rolling Stones can play “Johnny B. Goode” in concert. A comedian can’t go onstage and say, “Here’s one from Steven Wright,” and then perform his jokes.

That’s not influence – that’s theft. And yes, there are comedians who do it. And most of us know exactly who they are. The respect level for joke thieves is somewhere below sea level.

Being influenced is not the same as stealing.

Creative artists build on what came before them. A Rolling Stones song might have a Chuck Berry riff or a Bo Diddley beat hiding in the background, but it’s still a Stones song. Likewise, comedians can’t help but be influenced by the style of humor they enjoy.

Carrot Top didn’t invent prop comedy. Every kid who ever held paper plates to their head and pretended to be Mickey Mouse dabbled in prop comedy. He took what he liked and built on it.

That’s what you need to do.

You understand your comedic style. It’s reminiscent of Corey and Wright, but you’re not Corey and you’re not Wright – and that’s the point. You didn’t grow up in their neighborhoods, their families, their jobs, or their lives. You have your own stories, experiences, personality, and point of view.

That’s where your material has to come from.

Don’t ask, “What would Steven Wright say?” Ask, “What do I think about this?” Respect your influences, borrow the sensibility you appreciate – but say things in your own words with your own brain.

When I worked in Los Angeles, I worked with Jim Carrey and Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld). Both were massive Jerry Lewis fans. But neither went onstage yelling, “HEY LAAYYYDEEE!” That would’ve been stealing. But they did incorporate Lewis-style physicality, wild expressions, and pratfalls – filtered through their own personalities and experiences. And Jerry Lewis, of course, had been influenced by Chaplin and Harpo Marx.

That’s how influence works.

Use your natural mannerisms, your personality, and your experiences to shape your material. Don’t hold paper plates up to your head and hope the audience laughs – dig deeper. Think about why something is funny to you and how you see it. Then present that.

Everyone is influenced by someone. None of us are inventing the wheel – we’re just putting better tires on it. The key is understanding what makes you unique and exploring material that fits your comedic point of view.

Keep writing. Keep performing. Your comedy voice will emerge. And one day, when someone asks who influenced you, you’ll have your answer – just like every successful comedian does. The turning point is when you stop copying and start building on what inspired you in the first place.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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The Comedy Police Force

Hey Dave – I was at an open-mic last week. A comic went on stage and “called out” another comic who had gone before him for stealing jokes. He did this from the stage. Afterwards, he couldn’t prove it – and no one else remembered hearing those jokes anywhere else. We think he was wrong and handled it wrong. Any thoughts? – D

Comedy police out for joke-stealers!

Hey D – I always have thoughts. And when they’re about comics stealing material, they’re never good ones.

What a jerk.

Wait… let me rethink that. We might have two jerks here. Allow me to think out loud – or at least in loud writing.

JERK #1

This honor goes to the comic who “called out” the other one from the stage.

First of all, he admitted afterward that he had no proof. Maybe he thought he was being edgy—sometimes that works—but not when it’s at the expense of another comic who’s just trying to improve at an open-mic. That’s what these nights are for: getting better.

(And of course, this assumes the first comic didn’t actually steal material.)

The accuser should’ve talked to him privately, not trashed him in front of an audience. Unless a comic is known for stealing, the professional move is to speak offstage, one-on-one.

Bill Engvall talked about this in my book Comedy FAQs and Answers. He called it the comedy police.

Mention it!

When you think someone’s stealing, mention it—but privately. Comics should police each other, keep each other honest. If the warned comic keeps doing the same bit after being told, then there might be consequences.

But sometimes it’s not theft – it’s coincidence.

I once knew two comics, one in New York and one in Los Angeles, who independently wrote the same joke. They didn’t know each other and had never worked the same clubs. But the LA comic did the joke on the television show, A&E’s An Evening at the Improv.

(I know, because I was the talent coordinator standing off – camera when it happened.)

After the taping, I called the NY comic – both are still friends of mine – and told him what happened. He immediately said, “Well, I can’t do that joke anymore.” He wasn’t mad, because he knew they’d both written it honestly. But now that it had aired nationally, the other guy “owned” it.

That’s just how the business works.

So yes, a comic can accidentally do something too similar to someone else’s bit. The right way to handle that is quietly and respectfully – not grandstanding from the stage.

If you’ve got proof, talk privately. If he keeps doing it, then you can call him out.

JERK #2

Now let’s talk about the other jerk – the one who really does steal.

Back in New York, when I was starting out, there was an open-mic comic who ran a popular show. He was a nice guy, gave people stage time, and claimed to be a headliner in Florida.

That didn’t quite add up.

Turned out, he was going to Florida and doing the best material he’d stolen from comics performing at his open-mic.

Say what?!

The reaction from the NY comedy scene was swift and brutal. Nobody played his open-mic anymore, and no one else would give him stage time. Word got around, and eventually, he left for Florida to “pursue his career.” I later heard he was parking cars. Can’t confirm that – but it fits.

A few years later, when I was talent coordinator for An Evening at the Improv, he called my office trying to play the “old friend” card for an audition. Short story – he didn’t get one.

Chalk another up for the comedy police.

The Bottom Line

So, to answer your question, yeah – the comic who called the other one out from the stage was wrong. If he thought there was a problem, he should’ve handled it privately. Maybe the other comic didn’t even realize it. But if there’s proof, he needs to stop doing the joke.

And if he really is stealing? The comedy police will take care of it.

Comedy is a small world. Word gets around fast.

If it’s obvious someone’s stealing and they keep doing it, they’ll be blacklisted before long. Odds are better they’ll be parking cars at a comedy club before they ever “own” anyone else’s material on television.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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What Is Considered Corporate Comedy Material?

Hi Dave – You’ve talked about working in the corporate market as a comedian or humorous speaker. What is considered corporate comedy material and what is not? – B.E.

Living on the edge?

Hey B.E. – That’s a great question, and honestly, one I don’t hear in such a general way. Usually it’s more specific, like “Is this particular joke okay for a corporate show?” But since you asked broadly, I’ll give you the broad answer first.

When it comes to corporate work, the golden rule is simple: work clean. I’ve said it many times before, and I’ll keep saying it because it’s true.

There’s been some debate on social media about whether dropping F-bombs will ever become acceptable at corporate functions. My opinion? The people saying that are a little F-bombed themselves. It’s not happening now, and it won’t anytime soon. Sure, there may be rare exceptions with an “edgy” company (think Comedy Central), but if you want steady work in the corporate market, clean material is the standard. That means no F-bombs, and no routines where the F-bomb is the punchline.

Now, let’s get into what corporate audiences do look for. A lot depends on the event and its theme.

Follow the rules.

From my experience as both a booking agent and a corporate speaker:

  • Comedians are often hired for holiday parties, retirement banquets, and award ceremonies. The material can cover almost anything—marriage, kids, sports, current events—as long as it’s clean and fits the mood. But it’s important to know the theme. If it’s a holiday party, the client might want some holiday references mixed in. At a retirement banquet, comics who can roast, ad-lib, and personalize a few jokes usually do well. The key is to keep the laughs lighthearted—no embarrassment, no hurt feelings.
  • Humorous speakers are different. They’re brought in for their message—stress relief, communication, networking, leadership, tech training, you name it. With humor, they become entertaining as well as informative. These speakers might give keynotes, run breakout sessions, or even full-day training workshops. Their material comes directly from their area of expertise, with comedy woven in to keep the audience engaged.

So, to put it simply:

  • Comedians = entertainment. Be funny, be clean, and tie in the event’s theme when needed.
  • Humorous speakers = infotainment. Deliver useful content, but with humor so it sticks.

That’s the general answer to your general question, B.E. If you’re serious about working the corporate market, start by keeping your act clean, know the event’s theme, and always make sure the CEO (or whoever signs the check) leaves happy.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!

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Corporate Comedy: Think big but start small

Hi Dave – I just joined your email list. I do humor and did my first two stand-up open mics… rough crowd. Someone threw a cup of ice at one of the other comedians. My goal: to get some gigs entertaining at travel conferences. I have a bunch of funny travel stories. Any idea who I approach? A booking agent? I’m new to this, so any thoughts are appreciated. – R.R.

Traveling for work!

Hey R.R. – Only one cup of ice and you call that a rough crowd? Welcome to open mics. No wonder you’re aiming for conferences and corporate gigs. At those, the worst you’ll get is an icy stare if you’re not funny.

Here’s the thing: two open mics is a start, but you’ll need a lot more stage time to develop timing, delivery, and the ability to dodge both ice cubes and awkward silence. That only comes from performing – over and over.

Since you want to specialize in funny travel stories, focus now on two things:

  1. Writing – Create material that you find interesting. If it doesn’t grab you, it won’t grab the audience.
  2. Short sets – Start with five minutes. Think of it like writing a book: one chapter at a time. Use “color” – vivid descriptions – to take the audience on the trip with you. And make it funny.

Once you’ve got that five minutes, try it live:

  • Don’t avoid traditional open-mics, but search out stage opportunities with “real” audiences (and not just other comedians waiting their turns to go on stage).
  • Offer to speak for free at local business groups, networking breakfasts, luncheons, or special interest clubs. These are the “open mics” of the corporate world.

Work for free?

Why free?

Because you’re practicing, and they’re doing you the favor by giving you an audience. Keep it squeaky clean – G-rated – because in the corporate market, that’s the only way in.

When that first five minutes works, write another. Soon you’ll have ten… then fifteen… then a full conference-ready set.

Now – about booking agents.

Don’t call them yet. They need proven, audience-tested acts. You’ll know you’re ready when free gigs turn into paid ones – when people in the audience hand you their card and say, “Are you available for our event?” That’s when you start quoting fees and agents start calling you.

Bottom line:

  • Think big, start small.
  • Write, perform, adjust, repeat.
  • Build a proven act before chasing agents.

When the offers start rolling in, you’ll be ready to ask the magic question:

“Where, when, and how much are you gonna pay me?”

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Personalizing and Customizing Performances for Corporate Events

Hi Dave – Can you give us a few examples of how to work event themes into your material for a corporate gig? What is the process like? – MD

Hey MD – When it comes to performing at corporate events, I’ve always believed that personalizing your act or presentation to fit the audience and occasion is essential. It’s not just something I do – major entertainers do it too.

How did they know that?

For example, several years ago, my cousin attended a corporate event in Florida where Jay Leno was the surprise performer. Having Leno on the bill was impressive on its own, but what really elevated the experience was when he mentioned the company by name and even referenced a few of the executives in the audience. Suddenly, it wasn’t just a great show – it felt like a one-of-a-kind event designed just for them. It’s one thing to hear a big-name comic joke about your city or current headlines, but when they reference your business or someone sitting a few tables away, it becomes unforgettable.

Event planners, executives, and employees love that kind of attention. It reflects well on the company, adds energy to the event, and makes the entire experience more engaging. A key way to make this happen? Performers who know their audience—and show it.

This is what we mean when we talk about personalizing or customizing material. Even if a comedian or speaker is delivering the same core act they performed a thousand miles away the night before, they’ll weave in references to the location, event theme, and audience members to make it feel special.

Think of it like this…

I’m a classic rock fan, so let’s use The Rolling Stones as an example. On tour, they stick to a fairly consistent setlist. That’s necessary – stage lighting, video screens, pyrotechnics, and choreography all depend on knowing exactly what song is coming next and where Mick and Keith will be standing when the fireworks go off.

It’s the same with big-name speakers or comedians. They have a program that works. Corporate clients are paying for that proven performance. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be tweaked to suit the crowd.

If the Stones are playing in Los Angeles, you can count on Mick kicking off with, “Hello Los Angeles—we’re rockin’ tonight!” Next week in New York, he’s not shouting out L.A.—he’s calling out New York City. A simple change, but one that creates connection.

Here’s another example from my own experience:

When I book comedians from New York or L.A. to perform near Cleveland, many of them aren’t familiar with the local scene. But the savvy ones will ask how they can relate to the crowd. One question I often hear:

“What’s a suburb near Cleveland that locals make fun of?”

No offense intended, but I usually tell them “Parma.” Then during their act, the comic tosses in a joke referencing Parma—and suddenly the audience feels like, this comic gets us.

Now here’s the truth: that comedian may not know anything else about Parma. But next week, in another town, they’ll ask the same question and swap in a different local punchline. That’s personalizing the performance – and it works. Audiences respond to it. Talent bookers and event planners love it.

What I Do for Corporate Bookings

When I book a comic or speaker for a corporate event, I include a short questionnaire with the contract. It’s the best way to learn about the audience and the company. Based on the answers, I’ll ask the performer to incorporate relevant material into their act.

Here are a few examples of what I might ask:

  • Is there a theme for the event?
  • What should we know about the city or event location?
  • Who are some key people in the company?
  • Are there any individuals you’d like us to spotlight – either for recognition or audience participation?
  • What are the company’s products or services?
  • Is there a rival company we can (respectfully) poke fun at – or one we should avoid mentioning?
  • Where do employees like to hang out after work?

The depth of personalization depends on how much the client wants to share – but even a few specific details can go a long way in creating a stronger audience connection.

What About Customization?

Earlier, I mentioned both personalizing and customizing. Here’s the difference:

  • Personalizing involves adjusting an existing act or presentation to reflect the audience or event.
  • Customizing means creating brand-new material specifically tailored to the client’s message, goals, or theme – and yes, it usually comes with a higher fee, because it involves extra time and effort.

A customized presentation starts with a deep dive. I’ll often interview the client, event planner, and key team members to learn about the company culture, industry challenges, and internal goals. The performer then builds their presentation around that material, while still staying true to the style that got them hired in the first place.

For example, if a speaker is known for expertise in communication, the client won’t ask them to build a presentation on accounting. Similarly, if they hire Carrot Top, they’re not going to request a prop-free, TED Talk-style set. You get what you’re paying for – but a smart performer can shape their material to suit your exact needs.

Just like The Rolling Stones wouldn’t skip Jumpin’ Jack Flash in concert, comedians and speakers know their core act is what the audience expects. But with the right information, they can personalize – or fully customize – it to turn a good performance into a great one.

And that’s what makes a corporate event truly memorable.

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3 Lessons I Learned From a 30-Year Comedy Veteran – Dave Schwensen

By Siddesh Pai – “I Help Comedians, Humor Keynote Speakers & Entrepreneurs Enhance Their Personal Brand Through Targeted Newsletters | Standup Comedian”

Readers: You can locate Siddesh Pai through the following link on LinkedIn. This is an interview we did earlier this year and I liked it enough to share it. Thanks Siddesh and keep laughing!!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddeshpai/

3 Lessons I Learned From a 30-Year Comedy Veteran – Dave Schwensen

Talking comedy

Dave has been working in comedy for three decades. But he wants to make one thing clear: he’s not a stand-up comedian. To me, it felt like a writer who doesn’t read. But that’s exactly what makes him different—he’s spent his career booking, coaching, and writing on the business of comedy. In our conversation, he dropped some serious wisdom on why treating comedy like a business is the key to making it a career.

1) Comedy Can’t Be Taught—But It Can Be Coached

“I don’t believe you can teach comedy. What I think is funny, you might not. My kids certainly don’t think I’m funny.” I can’t tell you the Three Stooges are funny if you don’t find slipping on a banana peel hilarious, there’s nothing he can do to change that. This is where coaching comes in. Every comedian has a different style, a different rhythm, and a different worldview. Dave helps comics refine that—polishing the delivery, cutting the fat from jokes, and shaping a strong act. Because at the end of the day, you can’t teach funny. But you can help someone be funnier.

2) No One Is Going to Hand You Stage Time – You Have to Create It

“You can’t teach timing, you can’t teach delivery, and you sure as hell can’t teach stage presence. You have to get up there and do it.” Most comedians think getting better means hitting open mics over and over. But Dave has a different take – go where the audience actually wants entertainment. Clubs are competitive. You’re performing for other comics, waiting for their turn. But business events, fundraisers, and community groups? They’re desperate for entertainment. Your first gigs might be free, but that’s how you build momentum. One day, you’re performing at a Rotary Club for free. The next, someone offers you $500 to do the same set. Stage time is currency. The more you get, the faster you grow.

3) They Call It Amateur Night, But No One Is Trying to Hire an Amateur

A lot of comedians treat stand-up like a passion project. But the ones who make a career out of it? They treat it like a business. – Networking Matters – Hanging out with comics at open mics isn’t enough. Get to know bookers, producers, and event organizers. These are the people who can actually get you paid work. – Market Yourself – Being funny isn’t enough if no one knows you exist. Build a brand, create content, and stay on people’s radar. Your name should pop up when someone’s looking for a comedian. – Be a Professional – Show up on time. Have a tight five. Be easy to work with. Give people your business card. Make yourself easy to book. The comedians who get booked aren’t just the funniest—they’re the ones who treat it like a business.

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