Doing Face Time In Comedy Clubs For Bookings

Hey Dave – Isn’t “face-time” (not the kind associated with online networking) one of the most important parts of getting work hosting in comedy clubs? What I mean is, doesn’t it make a big difference in someone’s chances of being MC for a weekend (or more) when they frequent the club, chat up the staff and tip well, and demonstrate a willingness to do grunt work? I think that is universal. Didn’t you have a story about the guy who showed up outside a club and swept the sidewalk every day until they hired him inside and he then moved up the ranks? – DM

Make it a clean sweep!

Hey DM – This is not an easy question because there are a lot of buts, maybes and depends that will go into any answer – from anyone. I know from experience there are some comics and club owners who will agree with what I’m going to say, and others who will grab a broom and tell me to get out of the way.

But you know what? This is showbiz, which is an industry full of gimmicks. If you don’t believe me turn on the TV and the highest rated reality shows. You may not want to hang out in real life with bachelors, housewives and Kaitlin Jenner’s ex-family, but you have to admit they know how to bring attention to themselves.

So keeping that in mind, it’s not a bad idea to call attention to yourself by being seen around the clubs you want to play. To break into your local comedy scene you need to have the local talent bookers know who you are and that you’re a comic.

The goal is to score an audition.

I’ve never heard of the guy who swept the sidewalk outside a club everyday and was rewarded with a paid MC (hosting) gig.  It’s not a bad way to call attention to yourself, but if you really do end up with an audition it will only pay off if you have the talent and experience to back it up. Otherwise the only winner will be the club owner with a clean sidewalk.

My first thought is that the time could be better spent getting stage experience somewhere else.

Hanging out for stage time

Earn a reputation as a good comic and then do some networking. It’s a lot easier to score a showcase when you have a track record and recommendations from other comics and bookers who’ve seen you on stage. When you have that going for you, there’s no need to bring a broom to the club.

Showbiz has always been about being different and standing out from the crowd. If you have the experience and truly believe you’re ready to play the club and sweeping the sidewalk gets you noticed by the booker, who am I to put it down?

That’s why a lot of new comics are willing to hand out flyers for stage time or line up friends and family for bringer shows. Sometimes you must go the extra mile to get ahead in this crazy biz.

But your real question is about “face time.” That was always (and still is) a major networking opportunity and how a lot of newer comedians got on stage when I worked in New York City and Los Angeles. But I have to emphasize they were already experienced comics and not someone who only thought keeping the sidewalk clean would be their best career move.

When comics were experienced and funny enough to start performing at a club like The Improv they still had to pass the audition. Working the door, bartending, or even sweeping the sidewalk could open the door, but didn’t guarantee future paid gigs.

You had to prove – on stage – you could do it.

Even after someone passed the audition, there was no guarantee they’d get regular performing spots. They were on the club roster, which meant they were welcome to come in and “hang out at the bar” as a comic. Now if they wanted to sweep the sidewalk instead of sitting around – yeah, they’ll be noticed over the others. But if they hadn’t passed their audition, then chances are they’d still be sweeping when the show is ending.

But face time does count. For example…

During a weeknight at The New York Improv we would schedule enough comedians to get us through until around midnight. If there was still an audience at that time (in NYC we could keep the shows going until 4 am as long as we had people in the showroom) then we would look around to see what comics were “hanging out.” They would make up the rest of the show until either the audience left or we hit last call.

That was doing face time and we already knew they were comedians.

If they wanted to grab a broom and sweep up… well, thanks. But that alone would not have earned a performance slot. Were they on the roster? If not, was there another comic who was a regular performer at the club recommending they be given an audition? That’s the only way they were going to get on stage that night.

Now I already know some comics and club owners will disagree and have examples to prove me wrong. I even have a story in one of my books from a favorite club owner who might trade performing spots for work around the club. So I’m not saying it won’t work, I’m just saying…

A great way to kill a show is by putting on someone – anyone – who doesn’t have experience and isn’t funny. That’s why there are open mics and why established comedy clubs have auditions and already know who the comics are. Gimmicks like sweeping the sidewalk might get an audition, but the time could be better spent getting known as a good comedian – even if you have to perform somewhere else to make it happen. If you come in ready to knock everyone out with your talent, then you can get quality face time with the other comics “hanging out” instead of doing grunt work.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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Scoring an MC spot at an “A-List” comedy club

Hey Dave – My goal is to host a show at one of the top clubs. I have video that I can submit and if nothing else, it will be good to get some feedback and be told what I have to do to get work there. In saying that, do you know how to go about submitting videos to the clubs and what should accompany it, i.e. bio, pics, etc.? If you know who the contacts for the club may be or how to find that info that would be great as well. Thanks for your continued support in the comedy scene and I hope you are well. Talk to you soon – C.J.

Make sense? I’ll try my best…

Hey C.J. – Thanks for the support and well wishes. In answer to both I can say I’m trying my best…

And another thanks for your question since it gives me a chance to combine two past articles into a (hopefully) working answer. Make sense? Again, I’ll try my best…

Usually with the major clubs, the headliners and most features (middle acts) are booked through a corporate office. They have a talent coordinator who books all the clubs in their chain. Opening acts are mostly local or within driving distance and are booked by the club’s in house manager. The opening acts don’t get flown in or put up in five star hotels, if you know what I mean.

When you’re going for an opening (host / MC) spot at an “A-Room” (pick the top club in your area) it’s about the total package. Yeah, of course you have to be a good comic with experience. But you also have to show that in your submission to even be considered. These bookers are not going to hire someone who’s not ready to play their club. The audiences pay for and expect a professional comedy show. And even though the openers won’t have the television and/or film credits the headliners or some features have, audiences are also not paying big $$’s to watch an amateur night.

Know what I mean?

Get on stage!

You should have experience and a list of credits from playing smaller clubs first, before you approach the “big guys.”

I was on a panel at a comedy festival a number of years ago with the manager of a major club and an owner of another. One of them – in a very polite way – talked about the smaller clubs being like the minor leagues. He was comparing it to baseball. Get your experience there first to prove you can do it before trying to move up to the major leagues.

Assuming you’ve done that – here’s a game plan for your question.

In past articles I’ve talked about doing “face time” (networking) in comedy clubs. Another favorite topic is promotional material. Now it’s time to combine…

I suggest calling the club and asking the proper way to submit a video for a showcase (audition). The people answering the phones will know – because this is a question they get all the time from comedians. Follow what they say.

Based on the two major clubs in my area, there can be two different scenarios. One is doing face time. For instance, one of the clubs has a bringer showcase once a month. Bringer, meaning you must bring x-amount of paying audiences members to get stage time. I won’t discuss the pros and cons of that now, because I’ve also done that in past FAQs And Answers and on my YouTube Channel (How To Be A Working Comic #25). Let’s just agree it is what it is – and the only way you’ll be seen on stage at this particular club.

Play the game (pay the admission for your friends if you have to) and get on stage. At least you’ll be seen by someone connected with the club. Afterward do some face time and network with whomever is in charge of the show. Ask them what your next step is (you asked about getting feedback, so this is your opportunity) or how to be considered as an opening act during one of their regular shows.

Who knows? They might offer you a gig based on your performance (best scenario), say you’re not ready (worst scenario), or ask you to send them a video for more review. That last one’s okay because you’re still in the game. It’s also what you’d have to do for the other club I’m thinking about anyway, so here’s how that’s gonna work…

Again, you might want to consider starting with some face time. Go to a show and keep an eye out for a manager. Another hint – from experience – do this on a “one-show night.” Fridays and Saturdays usually mean multiple shows in the major clubs and everything is more hectic. Go on a Wednesday, Thursday or Sunday and chances are better you’ll get a minute or two with the person in charge.

Then ask:

What’s the best way to get a showcase or submit a video?

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Again, from experience – because comics ask all the time – they’ll tell you. Follow what they say. If the club doesn’t offer a showcase night, ask if they accept submissions via email and get the email address.

I also suggest you have a dedicated website for your comedy submissions. A certain comedy club I’ve worked for won’t even consider booking a comedian – including an opening act – without one. If you’re working off a Facebook page or other social media site, it doesn’t show them you are serious about your career if you haven’t taken that step as a professional. And if you’re not sure what to include on a website, just check out websites by “working” comedians or pick up a copy of my book How To Be A Working Comic.

Some comics might tell you this is not necessary since all the booker is interested in is your video. But here’s another hint from experience. To stand out from the crowd (and they get a lot of videos) you should make the extra effort. It makes you look more professional and that’s how you want them to see you.

Again – none of these top clubs are interested in hiring an amateur.

If they tell you to submit a video via email, send a link to your website that includes your video. Yeah, you can probably just email a link to your video on YouTube – if that’s really how you want to play this opportunity. But again, it won’t look as professional.

And for some of you, don’t let the idea of having a website throw you off your game. They’re easy and inexpensive. Check out WordPress and some of the others available for this.

Talent bookers will understand (they should) that you’re not a headliner or feature act because you’re asking for an opportunity to be an opening act (MC). They shouldn’t expect all the “bells and whistles” of a big-time headliner website.  But since these are “A-Clubs” we’re talking about, they will expect you to be further along in your career than doing open-mics and using a Facebook page as your business site.

If you don’t get a response from your submission, stay in touch without being a pain in the you-know-what. An email or postcard every couple weeks should work.

But again, networking REALLY helps. If you’re part of your area comedy scene you probably know some of the comics who open at these clubs. If you see them at the open-mics or some of the other clubs – and they like your sets (important to know first!) – ask if they can throw in a good word for you with the booker. As I’ve written in the past, a personal recommendation from someone who already works at the club can be your Golden Ticket. That can either get you a showcase or have your video watched a lot faster than anything I just mentioned above.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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Meeting a Talent Booker? Ask the Right Questions.

Hola Dave – When meeting a booker, agent, or manager for the first time, are there any important questions a comedian should ask? Should those questions be different depending on who you’re talking to? I’m attending a comedy festival that will be loaded with scouts, and I’d like to be prepared. – A

Who’s askin’?

Hey A – Great question. As I mentioned in my reply to A’s email, I’ve usually been sitting on the other side of the table – as the booker or agent. I’ve also worked with speakers, musicians, and variety acts, so I can tell you what typically happens during that first conversation.

If I couldn’t see a performer live, I’d watch a video. If the act looked promising, I’d review the promotional material – credits, recommendations, training, media appearances, and other experience. If everything suggested a good fit for a particular market, whether comedy clubs, colleges, or corporate events, I’d schedule a phone call or meeting.

That’s a pretty standard process.

During that conversation, I wanted to know where the comedian had performed, what types of venues they worked, and whether they were an opener, feature, or headliner. If we were in the same city, I’d arrange to see them perform live. If we were hundreds of miles apart, video became the deciding factor.

One thing many newer comedians don’t realize is how much this business runs on referrals. Bookers, agents, and producers constantly call each other asking, “Have you worked with this comic?” or “Do you know anything about this performer?”

Do Your Homework First

I’ve got questions!

Many of your questions can actually be answered before you ever introduce yourself.

If you haven’t heard of an agent or booker, research them online. Legitimate industry professionals usually have websites, client lists, social media, or production credits. Find out who they represent and what markets they work in.

Also, talk to other working comedians and speakers. Conversations about agents, bookers, and managers happen constantly. You’ll hear success stories, horror stories, and everything in between. I learned as much sitting around The Improv talking with comics as I ever did in an office.

The Best Question You Can Ask

If I could recommend asking only one question, it would be this:

“What markets do you specialize in?”

That answer tells you almost everything.

When I worked in New York and Los Angeles, most agents were focused on television, major comedy clubs, and entertainment opportunities. Later, when I moved to the Midwest, I discovered agencies I’d never even heard of that were incredibly successful booking colleges and corporate events.

When I became involved with the college market through NACA, I discovered many college agents had little interest in television or Hollywood. Their entire business was booking campuses nationwide, and they were excellent at it.

The lesson?

If your goal is television, you need someone who specializes in television.

If your goal is corporate events, colleges, cruise ships, or theaters, you need someone who has relationships in those markets.

Not every representative is built for every career path.

What Not to Ask

At a first meeting, avoid bringing up commissions, contract percentages, or deal terms unless they introduce the subject first.

If they’re interested in working with you, those conversations will happen naturally. That’s the time to accept, negotiate, or walk away – not during a casual meet-and-greet at a festival.

Remember, the first conversation is usually about getting acquainted. They’ll probably be asking far more questions than you are.

Answer honestly, present yourself professionally, and avoid overselling. Confidence is attractive. Desperation isn’t.

Ask Questions That Fit Your Career

The best questions are always personal to your goals.

Since I know the comedian who sent today’s question – and I also know “Hola” isn’t in my English dictionary – I suggested he ask whether they work in the Latino entertainment market. That’s a huge opportunity, and if that’s part of his career vision, it’s important to know whether a potential representative has the connections to help him succeed in both English and Spanish speaking markets.

The right agent isn’t simply someone who can book you.

It’s someone who can book your career.

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One More Story…

One of my closest friends in New York studied acting at the University of Miami. One of his classmates was a bilingual Cuban actor named Rocky Echevarria.

Early in his career, Rocky found success in Spanish language television. But his agent believed he could also break into mainstream American film and television, so they aggressively pursued English speaking roles.

Rocky eventually changed his professional name to Steven Bauer and landed the role of Manny opposite Al Pacino in Scarface.

Could another agent have helped him get there? Maybe.

But the important point is this: his representative had a vision that matched his long-term career goals – not just his current opportunities.

The Bottom Line

Whenever you have the chance to meet an agent, manager, or talent booker, don’t focus on what they can do for you next week.

Find out where they work, who they represent, and whether their strengths align with the career you’re trying to build.

The right representative can open doors.

The wrong one may keep you knocking on the same doors for years.

Choose wisely – and don’t be afraid to ask the questions that matter.

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Don’t send that video… yet

Hey Dave – What’s a good way to promote myself as a comedian and my videos to talent bookers? Can I send them to a video posted on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram? – BT

Are you ready?

Hey BT – I’m not revealing any kind of marketing breakthrough by saying almost everything today is done online. Okay, in my opinion in-person showcases are always the best, but not always easy to schedule – especially if promoting yourself for gigs not within easy travel distance.

And believe it or not, there are still a few (very few) talent bookers that request hard copies of promotional packages. In my opinion it just means they’re out of touch with what’s going on. If they can’t get online and learn how to work with streaming video and website links, what kind of gigs are they getting for their clients?

I’m guessing Amish barn-raisers.

What used to be included in a hard-copy promotional package is what still needs to be included when you promote yourself online. And a dedicated website – rather than social media – is considered more professional and even required by some bookers I’ve worked with if you want to be considered for work.

But don’t be discouraged if you don’t have a big-time website with a lot of bells and whistles dedicated strictly to your comedy or speaking career. One or two pages with the necessities (video, photo, resume, bio) will do the trick until you hit headline or television star status and can hire a publicist to do the work for you.

Are you sure?

Here’s some insider advice:

Great promotional material might get you noticed, but talent and experience are what gets you hired. Basically, it’s still all about writing and performing. That part of the job never ends. But when you’re ready to take the next step in your career, you’ve got to let people know – and that’s when professional looking promotional material and marketing techniques come into play.

Notice one of the words used above – professional. Here’s one of the most important lines from my book Comedy FAQs And Answers:

“They may call it amateur night – but no one is looking to hire an amateur.”

Sharing your videos with friends is easy on YouTube, Facebook, and others. Millions of people do it every day. Just send a message asking them to watch your video and include a link. But when it comes to promoting yourself to get professional bookings, you need to realize that your video and website are important marketing tools.

Go back the word I used earlier – professional.

Once you have a professional looking video and a professional looking website, then you can start contacting bookers to look at it. This is done through networking (meaning you know someone that can recommend you or put you in contact with the booker), researching, (going to the booker or club’s website and finding the required way to submit promotional material or request a showcase), and/or (and I hate this one, even though I’m good at it) cold calling. With the cold call you basically want to get the correct information on how to submit your material to a booker and then follow it.

Now this is not going sound too friendly or supportive, but I have to say it…

To the writer of this question – and don’t get angry because no one else reading this knows who you are – I’ve watched the YouTube link you sent. Here’s some good advice. Do NOT promote it to comedy talent bookers. It comes off as being very amateur and could damage your chances of being seen later when you’ve gained enough on-stage credits and experience to be taken seriously for paid gigs.

No booker has time or interest in watching really bad amateur videos. Take my advice on this one. Plus, it could come back to haunt you.

I remember a very influential comedy booker when I was working in New York City. I saw a comedian who was very funny and mentioned that he should check him out. I was surprised to be told he had seen the comedian a few years earlier when he was just starting his career. Based on that early impression, the booker said the comic was terrible and he had no interest in hiring or even showcasing him.

Here’s my advice.

Don’t worry about promoting yourself for work until you’re truly ready to be hired. Seriously. Be honest with yourself. If you’re doing open-mics or smaller shows and honestly feel you’re just as good or better than others getting paid gigs (listen to your audio recordings – audiences won’t lie), then make the leap. If not, don’t rush it. The best comics and people hiring comics all know it takes time, dedication, and experience. There are no short cuts.

Then promote your career as if you deserve to be called a working comic. This includes a headshot, resume with on-stage credits, a short bio (so they know something about you) and reliable contact email and phone number. You can have all that stuff on a website and in any design or format you want that makes it easy for talent bookers to review.

But the most important part of a promotional package is your video. Don’t put out something that makes you look like an amateur just to have a video to submit. Think of the first impression you’re making and that there might be a good chance the talent booker will remember it. For a long time.

They may call it amateur night – but no one is looking to hire an amateur.

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Why Do Talent Bookers Organize Showcases?

Hey Dave – You’ve talked about showcasing in the last few newsletters. What’s the motivation for a talent booker to organize these showcases? What’s the benefit to the booker and the club? — MB

Hey MB – The simple answer is this: showcases exist to find talent.

Whether it’s a comedy club talent booker, casting director, television producer, event planner, or speaker bureau, they all have the same goal – to see performers in action before hiring them.

Yes, they watch videos. Everyone does.

But if you’re in a major entertainment market like Los Angeles or New York, there are far more opportunities to watch performers live. And live tells you things that a video never can.

Think about your favorite band. Watching them on YouTube is one experience. Seeing them perform in concert is something completely different. The same is true for comedians and speakers.

What Talent Bookers Are Really Looking For

When I worked for The Improv in Los Angeles and New York, I regularly received calls from casting directors looking for very specific performers. Sometimes it was for a sitcom, movie, documentary, commercial, or a one-time appearance on a late-night television show.

One of the most competitive showcases we hosted was for The Tonight Show.

The producers weren’t simply looking for funny comedians. They were looking for comics who were funny and experienced enough to handle the pressure of national television. They wanted performers who could walk on stage, deliver under the lights, and not freeze in front of the cameras.

If you had only five minutes of material and were hoping to hit the lottery, this wasn’t your audition.

Why Three Minutes Is Enough

Rather than spending weeks reviewing hundreds of submissions, producers could schedule one showcase and watch a carefully selected group of comedians perform live.

Most comics were given about three minutes.

That may sound short, but experienced talent bookers can learn a tremendous amount in three minutes. They can evaluate stage presence, confidence, originality, audience connection, professionalism, and, of course, whether the performer consistently gets laughs.

I used the same system as Talent Coordinator for A&E’s An Evening at the Improv.

After reviewing stacks of audition videos, I’d invite about ten comedians to perform at a Monday night showcase. Each comic did three minutes, so the entire showcase lasted only about half an hour.

There was never a quota for how many comics we’d book.

One week we might discover four or five performers ready for television. The following week, none.

That’s simply the nature of scouting talent.

A Real-World Example

One evening at the New York Improv, I received a call from The Today Show.

It was an election year, and the producers wanted a comedian who performed political material.

Instead of launching a nationwide search, I contacted ten comedians from our roster who specialized in political comedy and scheduled a showcase.

Each comic performed three minutes.

The producers came to the club, watched everyone in one evening, and selected the performer they wanted.

It saved them from reviewing hundreds of videos and scheduling countless auditions. They made one trip, saw everyone under identical conditions, and left with exactly what they needed.

That’s the real value of a showcase.

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Why Agents and Managers Love Showcases

Showcases aren’t just organized by talent bookers.

Agents and managers often book showcase time at clubs like The Improv and fill the lineup with comedians from their own roster.

Then they invite casting directors, producers, network executives, talent buyers—and in the case of managers, talent agents they hope will represent their clients.

Yes, organizing these events takes work.

But it’s far more efficient than emailing promotional packages, making dozens of phone calls, and trying to schedule individual meetings.

Everyone who matters is in the same room at the same time.

A successful showcase becomes part audition, part networking event, and part business meeting.

What’s the Benefit for the Club?

Hosting industry showcases brings prestige – and business.

Imagine owning a comedy club that’s regularly visited by producers from major television shows, film studios, streaming platforms, and talent agencies.

Where do ambitious comedians want to perform?

That club.

And when the best comedians want your stage, audiences follow.

That’s why clubs compete just as hard to host industry showcases as comedians compete to perform in them.

Showcases Aren’t Just for Comedians

The same principle applies to humorous speakers.

When I worked as an agent booking college entertainment through the National Association for Campus Activities (NACA), showcases were the primary way speakers and comedians landed college bookings.

At regional NACA conferences, colleges sent student activities representatives to watch live showcases over several days.

Comedians, motivational speakers, musicians, hypnotists, and other entertainers each performed approximately twenty-minute sets.

After seeing them live, the student delegates selected who they wanted to bring to their campuses during the upcoming school year.

If you wanted college bookings, you had to be seen.

The Bottom Line

Whether you’re pursuing comedy clubs, television, corporate events, or speaking engagements, showcases remain one of the most efficient ways for buyers to discover talent.

For talent bookers, it’s an organized way to evaluate performers.

For clubs, it’s an opportunity to build reputation and attract top acts.

And for comedians and speakers, it’s a chance to perform in front of the people who can actually hire you.

When you’re ready, there are few opportunities more valuable than getting on the right showcase stage.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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Why Three Minutes Is More Than Enough

Hey Dave – You’ve written about how important it is to stay within the amount of time you’ve been given on stage. My question is: Why are showcases so short? In most cases, I don’t think you have enough time to prove how good you really are. – S.K.

Hey S.K. – First, for anyone new to comedy or professional speaking, a showcase is simply another word for an audition.

A successful showcase can lead to paid work, television appearances, club bookings, corporate gigs, or even representation from an agent or manager.

Why do we call it a showcase instead of an audition? I’m not sure. Maybe it sounds more professional and less intimidating. Either way, the goal is the same: someone is deciding whether or not to hire you.

I’ve been involved in showcases for comedy clubs, television shows, corporate events, and college programs. Here’s a behind-the-scenes truth about the business:

The people doing the hiring want to make the best use of their time.

Talent bookers, agents, managers, and event planners don’t want to spend an entire evening watching one performer. It makes far more sense to watch several performers in a single session.

They also don’t want to sit through 10-, 20-, or 30-minute sets when they already know within the first few minutes that a performer isn’t what they’re looking for.

That’s why showcases feature multiple acts doing short sets.

For example, when I was auditioning comedians for A&E’s An Evening at the Improv, I scheduled showcases on Monday nights at The Improv in Los Angeles. We’d see ten comedians perform three-minute sets in about 35 minutes. The extra time was built in for introductions and transitions.

If everyone respected the clock, Mission Showcase was accomplished.

In just over half an hour, ten comedians had an opportunity to book a television appearance.

And it wasn’t just me in the room.

Talent scouts from The Tonight Show, HBO, MTV, and other networks knew these Monday-night showcases were happening. Everyone could evaluate a lot of talent in a short amount of time.

Of course, some comedians complained that three minutes wasn’t enough time to show what they could do.

They were wrong.

Three minutes is plenty of time for an experienced talent booker to know whether a performer is ready.

If you couldn’t convince me within three minutes that you belonged on An Evening at the Improv, then you weren’t ready for that particular show.

The same was true for the other bookers in the room.

Think about it: If a comedian can’t hold attention for three minutes during a showcase, why would a television producer trust that comic with three minutes of airtime?

Even if the performer somehow became hilarious in minute six, television viewers would already be changing channels.

The same principle applies to shows like America’s Got Talent, American Idol, and The Voice. Before contestants ever appear on television, thousands audition in front of producers and judges for only a few minutes—or sometimes less.

If they don’t make an impression quickly, they don’t move on.

The lesson?

Bring your A-game immediately.

A showcase isn’t the place to ease into your act and “warm up.” You don’t have time. Start strong and make every second count.

It’s also your opportunity to demonstrate professionalism.

When you respect your time limit, you’re showing industry people that you understand schedules, production needs, and the realities of the business. You’re proving that you’ll be easy to work with.

And there’s another reason time limits matter:

Your fellow performers.

Whether a showcase is held in front of a live audience or just a panel of judges, people can only absorb so many short performances before fatigue sets in.

That’s why showcases are designed to move quickly.

Sure, someone like Dave Chappelle can perform for two hours and leave audiences wanting more. He’s earned that ability through decades of experience and a mountain of material.

But if you’re already operating at Dave Chappelle’s level, you probably aren’t showcasing.

One way showcases stay fair is by preventing judges and audiences from becoming burned out before the later performers take the stage.

And that brings me to a story.

In my comedy workshops, ten aspiring comedians perform five-minute sets during our graduation show. That’s 50 minutes of comedy, plus an emcee opening the show and introducing each performer.

The audience begins the evening fresh and excited. By keeping the sets short and focused, energy stays high throughout the night.

A few years ago, the first comedian in the lineup had a strong five-minute set. We had worked hard on it together, and he was prepared.

The problem?

He never looked up.

I was in the back of the room, ready to signal when his time was almost up. But he kept staring at the front tables and never once looked toward the sound booth.

His five minutes ended.

And he kept talking.

The prepared material ran out. Then came the rambling.

Suddenly, the audience wasn’t laughing anymore.

People started looking at menus, chatting among themselves, and ordering drinks. They mentally checked out.

By the time he finally left the stage, the comedian who followed him had to work twice as hard just to regain the audience’s attention.

The damage had been done.

After the show, he came over and asked how he did.

The truth?

“You did ten freaking minutes.”

Okay, maybe I said it with a little more diplomacy than that (not really – I never use the word “freaking”).

But I explained how going long had affected the entire show—not just him, but every performer who followed.

The irony was that his first five minutes were excellent.

The extra five minutes erased much of the goodwill he had earned.

Fortunately, he learned the lesson. He’s still performing today, and talent bookers continue to hire him.

Which brings us back to your original question.

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Why are showcases so short?

Because experienced talent buyers don’t need a lot of time to evaluate talent. They’re looking for professionalism, stage presence, confidence, originality, and the ability to connect with an audience.

A strong performer can demonstrate all of that very quickly.

So whether you’re doing a showcase, audition, open mic, or paid gig, remember this:

Respect the clock.

Time on stage can be your greatest ally—or a ticking time bomb.

And as every comedian knows, nobody likes to bomb.

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The Comedy Business Secret: Let Clients Sell You

Hey Dave – You had an article a while back about using quotes from clients as promotion on websites. I’ve been doing sets for some local businesses and clubs and the people who hire me say they like what I do. Can I just take what they say and post it on my website, or do I need it in writing? How do I get these quotes? I want to move into doing better paying corporate shows. Thanks – H.P.

Great idea!!

Hey H.P. — You have a good memory. I ran an FAQ a while back about using “Blurbs and Letters of Recommendation.” Since I only keep these ramblings online for about six months before hitting delete, it’s gone into the comedy workshop archives. But because I’m such a generous and caring individual (please try not to laugh too hard), here’s the updated version…

The original article talked about what makes a strong recommendation letter, email, text or DM from a client. At its best, it’s more than a compliment — it’s advertising. It tells future clients what you brought to the event and why they should hire you for their next one. Then you pull a line or two from that recommendation — the “blurb” — and post it on your website or promo material, just like those glowing quotes you see on book covers.

And now that we’re caught up, let’s continue…

Most comedians and speakers already know that getting a recommendation isn’t always automatic. A client may absolutely love your performance, promise to send you a testimonial, and then… disappear into real life. It usually doesn’t mean they didn’t like you. It means work, family, meetings, deadlines and everything else shoved your recommendation to the bottom of the pile.

Or they simply forgot.

What are friends for?

I also think a lot of people view writing a recommendation the same way comedians view helping friends move furniture. They know they should do it… but they keep hoping it somehow goes away on its own.

That’s where this next tip comes in. I learned it years ago from successful speakers and comedians and believe me — it works far more often than it doesn’t.

Always bring a self-addressed stamped envelope to your gigs.

Seriously. I’m not joking.

When the client is praising you after the show — “You were great!” “The audience loved you!” “Best event we’ve had in years!” — don’t just smile, say thanks, and head for the parking lot. Ask for the recommendation right there while the excitement is fresh. When they say yes — and they usually will — hand them the envelope and say, “I’m making this easy for you.”

Before I started doing this, recommendations were hit-or-miss. Once clients had that envelope in their hands, the follow-through rate went way up. Part of it is convenience. Part of it may be guilt. Either way, the system works.

And there’s another bonus.

Some clients may send a formal letter on company or school letterhead that you can scan and post on your website. Others may decide typing an email is easier. Either one works in your favor.

It also helps to send a thank-you email, card or note after the performance — something you should be doing anyway. If you haven’t received the recommendation yet, that follow-up gives you another opportunity to remind them.

And yes — you really should get recommendations in writing.

A verbal compliment is wonderful, but if you’re posting someone’s quote, name, company or photo online, it’s smart business to have written permission. An email is perfectly acceptable. Think of it the same way publishers use written permission for quotes and endorsements on books.

Now… let’s deal with the chronic procrastinators.

Years ago, I heard a highly successful humorous speaker at a National Speakers Association meeting share this strategy. I tried it myself, and it worked beautifully.

If you still haven’t received a recommendation about a week after the gig, call the client. Thank them again for hiring you and ask for feedback about the event. If they start complimenting your performance — which hopefully they will — bring up the recommendation again.

And if they say, “I’ve just been really busy…” here’s the magic line:

“Would it help if I wrote something up for you?”

Again — I’m not making this up.

Tell them you’ll draft something simple they can edit however they want. Explain that recommendations help with future bookings and that event planners and agencies often want to see testimonials before hiring talent.

You’ll practically hear the sigh of relief on the other end of the phone.

You just volunteered to do their homework for them.

Send the draft by email or regular mail. They can approve it, tweak it, put it on company letterhead, sign it, and send it back in the SASE you thoughtfully provided in the first place.


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Most working comics and speakers probably think this is basic stuff. But newer performers often haven’t considered any of it. I’ve mentioned these ideas in workshops and watched eyes light up around the room. These are simple techniques — and they work.

One reader also suggested something that’s become even more valuable today: video testimonials.

Excellent idea.

Whenever possible, record your performance (with the client’s permission first). If people are praising you afterward, ask if they’d mind saying a few words on camera.

Seriously. Again — I’m not joking.

A short video testimonial from a happy client can be gold for your website or promo reel. It’s always more convincing when someone else is telling the world how great you are instead of you trying to convince them yourself.

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When a club booker asks, “How much do you want?”

Hi Dave – The talent booker for a comedy club sent me the following: “How long is your routine and how much would you want to come to (city) to do a show?” I do 45 minutes to an hour, but on the money question I have no idea how to answer them. Obviously, I’d want enough to cover airfare. Between you and me, I’d stay with my grandmother who lives near the city. Any ideas? Thanks! – B.K.

How much’ya want?

Hey B.K. – I know the club you’re talking about. They’ve been around for years and have a solid reputation. Since you didn’t mention this being a one-night private event or corporate booking, I’m assuming they’re asking about a weekend at the club.

And right away, you’ve run into one of the oldest games in show business.

The talent booker asked you a very open-ended question:

“How much would you want?”

That puts the pressure entirely on you.

Meanwhile, the person asking already knows the going rate for openers, features, and headliners because he’s been booking and paying comedians for years. Clubs that operate every weekend know exactly what comics are worth in their market.

So why ask you?

Because there’s always the chance you’ll come in low just to get the booking.

That’s especially common with newer comedians. Most comics who are still building credits don’t want to scare off a club by quoting too high a number. They’re thinking:

“I just want to get in the door. I’ll negotiate more money later.”

And honestly, that’s understandable.

This is part of the ongoing push-and-pull between bookers and developing talent. Comics with major credits, television exposure, and audience-drawing power can often name their price. Newer comics usually can’t.

That’s simply the reality of the business.

Years ago, when I was booking talent for The Great Lakes Comedy Festival, I contacted representatives for two major television stars for theater appearances. These were household names with hit sitcoms and enormous popularity.

The fees I was quoted were enormous — far beyond the budget of a startup comedy festival. One package even included a private jet to fly the comedian in and out the same night.

And none of it was negotiable.

As long as I’m on TV I set my own price, man!

That’s what leverage looks like at the top level.

But for newer comedians and speakers, the key is learning how to ask better business questions instead of immediately throwing out a number.

Start with this:

“How many shows are you looking for me to do?”

That matters.

Five shows over a weekend is very different from one showcase appearance.

Then ask:

“What do you usually pay your first-time headliners, features, or openers?”

That’s a fair and professional question.

You should also do some research. If you know comedians who have worked the club — and you’re on good enough terms to ask — find out what the club typically pays.

Comedians don’t have a union. Information is often the only leverage performers have.

That said, be respectful. Some entertainers are private about money, and that’s understandable too. Don’t push if someone seems uncomfortable discussing it.

Ideally, the club would simply make an offer upfront:

“This is what we pay first-time features.”

That would make life easier for everyone.

But in the real world, bookers often want to see whether a comedian will undersell themselves first.

You’ll hear this same approach in the corporate, cruise, and college markets too. The difference is that established comedians in those worlds usually already have a set fee structure and know how to negotiate travel, hotel, meals, merchandise percentages, and other expenses.

Club work can be trickier because rates vary wildly depending on the venue, city, audience size, and your drawing power.

A comic consistently earning $1,000 a weekend has established a market value. A comic who’s still building credits may have less negotiating power — especially if the club is taking a chance on booking them for the first time.

That’s why you also have to look at the bigger picture.

Ask yourself:

  • Is this a strong credit for my resume?
  • Will I meet people who could help me get more work?
  • Is this an opportunity to expand into a new market?
  • Would I enjoy the trip personally?
  • Does staying with family reduce my expenses enough to make the deal worthwhile?

In your case, staying with your grandmother could actually become part of the negotiation.

If the club normally provides a hotel room, you might save them money by not needing one. The same goes for transportation if you can borrow a car while you’re there.

But here’s an important reality in today’s comedy world:

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A lot of clubs no longer cover airfare the way they once did.

That means you absolutely need to calculate your expenses before agreeing to anything. Know what the trip will realistically cost you. Then compare that number against whatever offer the club makes.

From there, the final question becomes simple:

“Is this worth it for me right now?”

Only you can answer that.

My advice is to stay professional, be honest, and avoid throwing out a random number too quickly. Ask what they’re offering first. Let the booker show his cards before you show yours.

Then negotiate from a position of information — not insecurity.

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Should You Self-Publish or Find a Literary Agent? The Real Business of Writing a Book

Hi Dave – Which way do you lean when it comes to publishing a book? Should I try to get a NYC literary agent and a traditional publisher, or just self-publish? My blog is basically a manuscript in progress, but it’s already been reviewed – and rejected – by several agents through AgentQuery.com. One agent even sent me a personalized note saying it was great material, just not his style… but still worth publishing. As George Carlin once said: “A definite no… yeah.” Thanks! – C.B.

Is that a yes or a no?

Hey C.B. – If you had asked me that question when my first book came out through a New York publisher, I would have given you a long speech about why you should never self-publish.

Today? I’m right in the middle.

I’ve done both – traditional publishing and self-publishing – and there are advantages and disadvantages to each. Honestly, there’s no reason you can’t do both.

This topic comes up all the time with speakers and comedians because writing is part of the business. Whether it’s material for the stage, speeches, articles, or eventually a book, creative people write.

And let’s face it – most people believe the old saying:

Everyone has at least one book in them.

Writing it is one challenge.

Getting it published, read, and actually making money from it? That’s a whole different story.

So let’s get to your real question:

Literary Agent or Self-Publish?

First, let’s clear something up.

A “NYC agent” does not guarantee anything.

Your literary agent can be in New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta, London, or anywhere else. Publishing is largely handled online now, along with book fairs, networking events, and industry connections. Geography matters far less than relationships.

Case in point – my literary agent is based in Atlanta, and she landed me two book deals with New York publishers.

Before that, I lived in Manhattan for 14 years and ran one of the most famous comedy clubs in the world. I had contacts in television, film, and nightlife – but not publishing.

Without a literary agent, I would have never gotten past the gatekeepers.

My agent handled the submissions, made the calls, worked her contacts, and got the deals.

That’s the real value.

It’s Who They Know

What’s your story?

A literary agent’s success doesn’t depend on where they live.

It depends on who they know.

Their job is to get your work into the right hands – the editors and publishers who can actually say yes.

But first, you need the product.

That means the manuscript.

If you’re already famous, your agent can probably sell an idea or outline. If Taylor Swift calls her agent with a book idea, she gets a deal.

You and I?

We’d better have the full manuscript ready.

Traditional Publishing = Prestige

In my opinion, getting a real publisher to release your book is still the gold standard.

It’s harder. It takes longer. It can feel nearly impossible for an unknown author.

But it can happen – I’m proof.

And yes, it feels good knowing professionals in publishing believe in your work enough to invest real money and time.

There’s also still a stigma around self-publishing.

Sorry if that bruises a few egos, but it’s true.

Ask an author, “Who published your book?”

Saying the name of a recognized publishing house sounds a lot stronger than saying, “Well… I did.”

But Speakers and Comedians Need to Think Differently

Now let me shift this toward the people I usually write for – speakers and comedians.

Because honestly…

Who cares who published your book if the book helps you make money?

Professional speakers and comedians understand something called:

BOR Sales

(Back Of the Room)

Books. T-shirts. Audio programs. Videos. Merchandise.

If it isn’t nailed down backstage, someone is probably trying to sell it.

And smart performers should.

That’s where self-publishing becomes incredibly valuable.

Self-Publishing Can Pay Fast

Traditional publishing is prestigious.

Self-publishing is practical.

A publisher may give you an advance – which is great.

But self-publishing lets you create inventory for BOR sales.

You can literally open a box of books in the morning, do a speaking engagement or comedy show that night, and go home counting cash.

That’s real business.

I’m a big fan of Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) for both paperbacks and eBooks. Costs have come down significantly.

But remember this:

You can’t autograph an eBook.

After a strong performance, audiences want more information – or a souvenir.

A signed physical book gives them both.

That’s why printed books still matter.

Don’t Go Cheap

If you self-publish, invest in quality.

Too many people look for the cheapest possible printer and end up with a cheap-looking book.

Bad idea.

A poor-quality book kills sales.

People will smile, shake your hand, compliment your performance – and walk away without buying.

In publishing, like comedy:

You get what you pay for.

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So What Should You Do?

My answer is:

Yes – try for both.

Pursue a literary agent and traditional publishing.

Absolutely.

But while you’re waiting – and yes, it can take years – also explore self-publishing, especially if you’re already performing regularly.

Because here’s the reality:

Most aspiring authors hear “no” far more than “yes.”

Can your ego handle that?

Self-publishing gives you immediate control.

Traditional publishing gives you long-term credibility.

Both can work.

Final Thought

If you truly have a book in you, get it out.

Look for literary agents.

Research submission guidelines.

Study agency websites.

Do the work.

But if you’re already a working speaker or comedian, also think seriously about self-publishing for BOR sales.

Key phrase there:

Already working.

Because if you’re not performing in front of audiences, promoting your book becomes much harder.

Otherwise, you’re just another unknown author competing online with thousands of others.

And trust me – I’ve heard plenty of horror stories from self-published authors with boxes of unsold books stacked in their basements.

Books don’t sell themselves.

Promotion matters.

That’s why every movie star on the planet hits the talk show circuit when a new film comes out.

It’s marketing.

And for speakers and comedians, your best marketing opportunity happens right after a great show – when the audience is excited, engaged, and standing right in front of you.

That’s when books sell.

That’s BOR.

And that’s why publishing – whether traditional or self-published – isn’t just about writing.

It’s about business.

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Never promise what you can’t deliver

Hey Dave I need some advice… although I think I already know the answer. A booker asked if I could do an hour clean for corporate and 90 minutes for cruises. I’ve got about 40 clean. I already hurt myself recently when someone asked if I could headline an hour and I admitted I was more comfortable featuring. I want to say yes – but I don’t want to disappoint them or damage my reputation. At the same time, I’m worried that if I say no, they won’t call me again. What do you think? – D.

Are you being honest?

Hey D. – You’re right – you do already know the answer. And so does every working comic and talent booker who’s been around the business for more than a few open mics. The only difference is experience makes it easier to trust that answer.

Here’s the reality: nobody in this business wants to lose an opportunity. But one of the fastest ways to do exactly that is by overpromising – or worse, flat-out misrepresenting – what you can deliver.

If a booker tells a client, “This comic can do a clean hour,” that’s not a suggestion. That’s the product being sold. And if you say you can deliver it, it had better be true.

Because if it’s not… everyone loses.

Now, there are exceptions. Some performers can stretch with crowd work and genuinely carry an hour without a fully written set. If you’ve done that successfully before, that’s part of your act.

It could be a bomb!

But if you haven’t? A high-paying corporate show or a first impression with a legitimate booker is not the place to experiment.

For experienced comics, this is obvious. For those coming up, it’s where temptation creeps in.

You’re thinking: If I say no, I might lose the opportunity. But here’s the flip side: if you say yes and don’t deliver, you won’t just lose this opportunity – you’ll likely lose future ones too.

So, what’s the move?

Tell the truth.

A legitimate booker will respect honesty far more than a shaky performance. If they reached out, it means they’re already interested in working with you. This isn’t a “one strike and you’re out” situation – it’s the beginning of a relationship.

Use it.

Let them know what you can do right now. Ask to be considered for shorter sets. Stay in touch. Most corporate shows don’t even need an hour – 30 to 45 minutes is often the sweet spot.

And when you’re ready to deliver a full hour – or 90 minutes – you circle back and let them know.

That’s how careers are built.

Because this is a career. And careers take time.

Developing a strong, clean act for corporate and cruise work doesn’t happen overnight. It takes stage time, discipline, and a clear understanding that there are no shortcuts in this business.

From the booker’s side, I can tell you this: there’s nothing worse than putting a performer on a show who doesn’t deliver. The client is unhappy. The relationship takes a hit. And that comic?

Let’s just say they’re not getting a call anytime soon.

And yes… I learned that the hard way.

Thanks for reading and as always – keep laughing!!

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